Democracy is only worth the fig if it produces the right answer. Clearly Irish voters have boo-boobed big time. Some of those eurocrats in Brussels and Strasbourg have barely been able to lie on their expenses claims so angry they are.
Typical of the puffed up bullfrog arrogance of the eurocracy is one Monsieur Valery Marie René Giscard d'Estaing, "The Irish have the right to say 'no,'" but "a country that represents 0.7% of the European population...cannot decide for the others."
I think Valery actually prefers a much smaller electorate; just the eurocrats, let them decide what's best for you and leave it at that.
As the article says in the Irish Independent, "The Lisbon Treaty has been ratified by European politicians in 19 countries, who number perhaps 5,000, as against the 862,000 Irish voters who shot it down."
Valery's statement that "public opinion will be led to adopt, without knowing it, the proposals we dare not present to them directly," had a great deal in helping the No camp. Though he does say that it is a mistranslation. But, however badly it was translated, I think we get your meaning Valery.
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you should start to use your head instead of your ars_e.
1: EU was never a Nation and it is a still not a Nation. First step to make it to a national federation was made by european constituion wich btw was killed by polish nazis and failed information politic in Holland and France.(aside a outfucked british citizens who are happier to be flooded by chinese illigals instead to acsept polish or other european workers there)
EUROPEAN UNION IS A THING BETWEEN NATIONS SO THAT IS A THING WHERE REPRESENTATIVES OF NATIONS ARE FOR NOT A FUCKING SENSLESS REFERENDUMS.
2: Lisabon teatry is a try to save EU from colapse by giving it more flexibilty and to make a way to the future political union wich can defense itself without american masters and their british pudels.
If there are by the autumn 25 or 26 ratifications, it would not be unreasonable nor undemocratic to ask the minority to consider the possibility to seek a compromise rather than to block reforms entirely.
Indeed, that was the professed view of No campaigners in Ireland, who said they want a better deal.
Yet, the UKIP/Tory/Sinn Fein/French Communist view (what an alliance! watching the acting leader of the Tories vigorously applaud the French Communist leader was instructive) expressed in the debate was that other countries shouldn't be allowed to vote on the treaty at all (presumably in case they Vote Yes).
For good measure, Nigel Farage threw into the debate a claim that a Commissioner had committed fraud - a remark somewhat undermined when the very next speaker was UKIP's shame, Ashley Mote, recently released from prison after serving a sentance for...fraud!
Several Irish members were understandably bitter at the the claims by some No campaigners that the Lisbon Treaty would have legalised euthanasia, drug-taking and abortion in Ireland, and also required higher corporation tax rates and an Irish contribution to a European army. These lies had an impact on enough voters to swing the result.
But blame was also laid at the door of the Irish government for not campaigning or explaining properly or even bothering to rebut the No claims until the last few days, preoccupied as they were with installing a new Prime Minister and re-shuffling the government.
Be that as it may, we now have to face up to the consequences rather than apportion the blame. It will be no easy task, but the need to reform the EU has not gone away and achieving this remains on the agenda.
By their own rules they have failed. Now they want to change the rules. It is imperative that these eurocrats be stopped in their tracks.
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